I've heard some say that the pros tend towards D2, while others say that the new trend is towards D6.
Personally, I've found D6 to feel like a sledgehammer for my smooth, medium stroke. I lose almost all sense of touch and feel at that swingweight. Through experimentation, I've found D1 to be the best in terms of touch, feel, and consistency.
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- #2I talked to Scotty Cameron in the early 90's, and he said D4 was the ideal putter swingweight. I put my all standard Ping Anser 2 PP 35'(new msmt 36') on the scale, and it was D4!
I have read that TW likes D1.
For a 34' putter D2 is perfect for me. - edited Jun 13, 2009#3Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting that the Studio Select Newport 2 regular swingweight is D3 for 34'.
- #4I am curious how headweight translates into swingweight with shorter putters, for instance a 32.5 inch length putter. I am beginning to experiment with heavier headweights to get an optimal swingweight at this length. Is there a chart somewhere with this info that someone has a link to?
- #5From a grams perspective, 2 grams difference in headweight translates into 1 swingweight point difference.
A longer shafted putter needs a lighter putter head to maintain an equivalent swingweight to a shorter shafted putter with a heavier putter head. Don't know what the exact equation is to describe the relationship, but I'm sure it's out there if you Google it. - #6Thanks. After the search I think that my putter at 365g and 32.5 in. is around D6/D7. This is what I found from better-golf-by-putting-better.com:
Conversion formula:
+/- 1/2 inch putter shaft length equals +/- 3 swingweight points
+/- 2 grams putter head weight equals +/- 1 swingweight point
+/- 5 grams putter grip weight equals +/- 1 swingweight point
+/- 9 grams putter shaft weight equals +/- 1 swingweight point
Take a standard putter of 35 inches with a head weight of 330 grams and a D4 swingweight. Now cut an inch off to reduce the putter to 34 inches and refit the same grip. The 3.2 gram weight loss in the shortened shaft is minimal and you can ignore it.
Using the above conversion formula the effect of cutting an inch off the grip end reduces the swingweight by six swingweight points from D4 to C8.
The question is how significant is this change in coding and will it affect the putter’s performance?
I think that my putter at 365g and 32.5 in. is around D6/D7. - #7Curious if swingweight has more effect on long lag distance control or is it an overall thing?
- Proud founding sponsor and pioneer of golfwrxBay AreaMarshalsPosts: 7,848modSwingweight is a personal thing, especially on a putter.. even though the trend is on the heavy side due to better equipments to maintain the course and better technique on building a better/faster/smoother green the last 15-20 years.
It's a tough one without personally trying them out. I know for sure i personally like it around 350-355gr. I can't tell you what swingweight due to putter grips can vary quite a bit and effect swingweight a few points. Because putter is only a small strokes compare to a full swing on his other brothers in the bag, this swingweight factor is less sensitive for me as long as the putter head weight is within 350-355. I prefer my self putting around 34.5-35 with similar type grip PING BLACK OUT and 69-70* lie angle.
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Joe - #9I found the link to an old thread with a great chart. I use a 32.5 in putter. I followed the chart and have been happy with the results
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?sh..ter+swingweight - #10Bump as this thread has some useful information for putters. Useful given all the great putters that are being released this year.Though much is taken much abides;
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Bump as this thread has some useful information for putters. Useful given all the great putters that are being released this year.
I remember that chart, but, I am not able to access it through the thread link. Anyone else? - Municipal JunkieDayton, OhioMembersPosts: 750✭✭My two putters (Ping C67 and Anser) are D3. That's what feels right for me at 6'3', 60 yrs. old. I doubt if that height/age demographic means anything. Swing weight feel is purely subjective.Adams Speedline 9088UL 10.5* AXIVCore 69 Black (S)
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Kenny Giannini G2 Chubby - #14Putter swingweights seem to be all over the place these days.
And honestly, I'm not sure if it matters that much? Since I'm not really 'swinging' a putter, I can notice total weight before swingweight. - edited Oct 1, 2014#15
Putter swingweights seem to be all over the place these days.
And honestly, I'm not sure if it matters that much? Since I'm not really 'swinging' a putter, I can notice total weight before swingweight.
All fair points.
I recently swapped out a Super Stroke (very light) for a midsize Ping cord grip on my 330M. It changed the swingweight from E5 to closer to E1. I have 3 putters at E5 that I like a lot (plenty of lead tape) but decided I would try it as is. After a few minutes on the practice green I decided it was a no go for me until a add some lead to get it back to E5.915D3 10.5 AD DI 7x
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Kenny Giannini G2 Chubby - Professional Putter PoserMembersPosts: 517✭✭I feel like this is the difinitive scale for swing weight.
http://www.ralphmaltby.com/home/267/ - #17
I feel like this is the difinitive scale for swing weight.
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I was going to reference this chart as well. A fitter can help you find the right swing weight for your stroke as well. My fitter set my up at E0. Definitely not something I would have even thought to try without the fitting.0·Share on FacebookShare on Twitter - #18
I feel like this is the difinitive scale for swing weight.
http://www.ralphmaltby.com/home/267/
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Kenny Giannini G2 Chubby - #19
I feel like this is the difinitive scale for swing weight.
http://www.ralphmaltby.com/home/267/
cool resource! thanks for posting.
That link seems to be broken now. I have measured some putters I like at 35', they all seem to be around E0 - E4. I guess that is fairly heavy.
I think head weight would have to be down around 340 to have D6/7 at 35'.
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- edited Apr 7, 2015#22Cameron swing weights his putters the best. period, nobody else can balance a putter like the #1 putter maker in the biz.0·Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
- #23Cameron also changes. His swingweights have creeped up over the years.
- #24We start with matching the swing weight to the heaviest swing weight in your bag. This is typically your sand wedge. Looking for some continuity in feel. Then we adjust based on stroke timing and stroke length.
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